This is the book by Krista Tippett: Becoming Wise: An Inquiry into the Mystery and Art of Living
A journalling book recommended by Jerry Weinberg. Published in 1965 and I also see he has since published others too: At a Journal Workshop. Metaphors in there are rich, and the system too is rich. Possibly too rich.
The Nora Bateson book is - Small Arcs of Larger Circles: Framing through other patterns
We also spoke about the audio course "Redefining Reality", thank you for that.